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Discussion: Google Pixel 3 - worth it or the best?

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For the Pixel owners - some folks from XDA modded the stock camera and added some descent features one might like!

As there are
- force astro mode (it's always on but of course doesn't really make sense during day but might on a night scene. Have to do some testing)
- added light painting mode
- added an option in which mode the camera will start (like night sight, portrait or normal mode)
- 1080p60fps (forced!)
- max zoom level up to 50x (okay, not really useful but up to 12x is okay)
- change frame count for ZSL (= zero shutter lag) shots up to 30 frames to reduce noise
- a ton of settings in regards of de-noise, saturation just to name a few
- LIB patcher function (think it's overwriting default settings of the stock camera libraries)

This app can be installed in addition to the stock camera. So if you don't like it just remove it again and you are back to normal.
It's amazing what those guys do with this app.

Here's the link to the XDA forum: [GCam] Camera PX for Google Pixel 1 / 2 / 3 / 3a / 4
 

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I think to some extent, expectations are sometimes governed by what you have become comfortable with. I was used to the iPhone image ‘look’ - less saturation, less sharpening so anything different felt a bit uncomfortable. Also, I look at an image and think, this one is definitely clearer and then when I zoom in on my iPad screen I think, oh, maybe not. My expectations have become so high that I think I perceive phone images (or even photos in general) to be much clearer than they actually are.

When I judge images in our challenges, I never think, gosh, the iPhone images are better than the Android ones because it’s all about how good the composition is and choice of subject. The differences are so minor at the resolution we see the images that there is no difference. If we were to blow up most of our images and put them on the wall then it would be more obvious but then I am sure we would be dissatisfied with both the iPhone and Android phones and realise that a DSLR is what we need. :lol: I wonder what Apple did to the iPhone images that they pasted on the big billboards? Would be interesting to know - or when you get up close do you still see the detail.
Several printers have posted that they can print a very good image regardless of your cameras pixel capabilities...and they were talking frameable wall art. I’ll look for the claims and repost here when Imfind them.
 

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Pixel 3 owner since March '19. It's taken some fantastic shots. Can concur that Night Sight is also great when applied in daytime. Not happy with some of Google's updates to the camera app; especially removing burst mode. Only thing I still envy about iPhones is the ability to control shutter speed.
 

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Well, I think Google has other problems. Loosing those guys is bad but I think there are more brilliant people in this company.
The bigger problem I see is that they do not listen to people and the market. Nearly all issue named in this article are true (even though I didn't have a single issue with my Pixel).
Being top of the pack means
- enough RAM / storage (64GB works for me but won't for many others)
- more up to date design
- zoom lens (P4 has one but I think there's room to improve)
- battery life (if people should use cloud services and benefit from computational photography you also need the according battery)
- open their top technology (camera) to 3rd party apps. This would improve the ecosystem of apps around photography for people like us and I think we are not allone.

To my opinion Google has to solve some internal problems first. So I think the article describes the problems quite well.
 

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Well, I think Google has other problems. Loosing those guys is bad but I think there are more brilliant people in this company.
The bigger problem I see is that they do not listen to people and the market. Nearly all issue named in this article are true (even though I didn't have a single issue with my Pixel).
Being top of the pack means
- enough RAM / storage (64GB works for me but won't for many others)
- more up to date design
- zoom lens (P4 has one but I think there's room to improve)
- battery life (if people should use cloud services and benefit from computational photography you also need the according battery)
- open their top technology (camera) to 3rd party apps. This would improve the ecosystem of apps around photography for people like us and I think we are not allone.

To my opinion Google has to solve some internal problems first. So I think the article describes the problems quite well.
Yes I thought it neatly summed up the situation. I agree I've personally not had problems with Ram/storage, but I can see that people would,
battery life isn't great though.
 

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Oh, and I didn't realise they put a smaller battery in the 4, madness!!
I may go back to Samsung next time round, that S20 is looking nice :)
 

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Actually, I don't like Samsung because of - to my taste - too many Samsung bloatware. But I'm fine with my Pixel for the next 2 or three generations of phones and then let's see what's up with phones.
I would like a more PRO photography phone with solid basic technology and not too much fancy sh.t like radar chips and stuff with proper and reliable updates in time.
 

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I guess and its mentioned in the article, that we would like the Pixel to become the iPhone of Android, ironic really !
Don't get me wrong I love my Pixel, I just feel obliged to get a more up to date phone every 2 years. Who knows I might even get an iPhone ;)
 

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Who knows I might even get an iPhone
Traitor! :lmao:
Actually I find it quite odd. Google - the biggest tech company on the planet "kind'a" fails bringing up descent high-end phones. They have the money, they have the technology, they have the companies, they have the power - but they don't seem to have a plan. Weird!
 
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