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New MobiZero #8 February 1-29

Starzee

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MobiZero #8 Challenge

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The Rules:

1.) No editing : images must be “as shot” in your camera.

2.) Native camera or camera only app. No filters (ie: Hipstamatic)

3.) Cropping is permitted but no further editing.

4.) black & white or colour.
*Black and white images may be desaturated, only. No filters or presets applied.

5. ) Challenges judged monthly on the last day of the month by winner of previous month.

Please see: Rules & Guidelines for MobiChallenges HERE

The judge for Mobizero is
Kevin Barrett Kevin
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Starzee

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Attention MobiZero Champions!!
I have created a gallery of the winners up to this challenge here.
Kevin Barrett you can find your stunning sunset here.

Also, I did not create this thread, nor did I set the roolz. I’ve always been a little wary about the whole black and white thing, as using a preset would also change setting and modify the original file. I considered eliminating that from the challenge, but I for one, LOVE black and white images. So, after a many days (a month to be precise) and a few beers. I decided to ALLOW black and white images using DESATURATE ONLY.
I have spoken!
(Of course I’m speaking a squeaky, mouse voice, hiding behind the sofa, so if someone has another idea, thought or decree, please post it.)
:D
 
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Nagaisgich

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Attention MobiZero Champions!!
I have created a gallery of the winners up to this challenge here. Kevin Barrett you can find your stunning sunset here.

Also, I did not create this thread, nor did I set the roolz. I’ve always been a little wary about the whole black and white thing, as using a preset would also change setting and modify the original file. I considered eliminating that from the challenge, but I for one, LOVE black and white images. So, after a many days (a month to be precise) and a few beers. I decided to ALLOW black and white images using DESAU+
yes definitely since we aren’t using b&w film, IMO, it must be considered an edit. But it doesn’t change the composition... just the mood. It doesn’t alter individual pieces of the photo, just the photo as a whole. It can’t fix composition mistakes (except the happy mistake of harsh light :). I have no problem adding black and whites here.

there’s also the option to make a challenge where we just have black and white photos that are otherwise unedited. I would definitely find that a challenge because I often work hard on the original first with the goal of making a better b&w out of it :)
 

terse

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so if someone has another idea, thought or decree, please post it.
Since you asked... :D

I read the intent of this challenge to be prompting people to get the image right in camera, with no editing after the shot. And I figure the corollary of that is anything you do before the shot is OK, including selecting a preset like B/W. I don't see selecting a preset as any different in spirit than adjusting exposure or focus before shooting. So if it were up to me, I'd say shoot in b/w all you want, as long as you set it up before you trip the shutter. On an iPhone, you can even do this with the native camera app.
 

sinnerjohn

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Since you asked... :D

I read the intent of this challenge to be prompting people to get the image right in camera, with no editing after the shot. And I figure the corollary of that is anything you do before the shot is OK, including selecting a preset like B/W. I don't see selecting a preset as any different in spirit than adjusting exposure or focus before shooting. So if it were up to me, I'd say shoot in b/w all you want, as long as you set it up before you trip the shutter. On an iPhone, you can even do this with the native camera app.
My native camera has no b/w mode so I'd have to use an app to shoot in b/w and I suspect using an app should be deterred in this particular challenge.
 

terse

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I suspect using an app should be deterred in this particular challenge.
I don't see why. Film photographers got to choose what film they were going to shoot with (and lens, and camera body). If the idea is to compose and adjust in camera, why would the app matter?

EDIT: Then again, I don't join this challenge very often because I love to edit, so probably you all should just ignore me. :lmao:
 

Nagaisgich

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Since you asked... :D

I read the intent of this challenge to be prompting people to get the image right in camera, with no editing after the shot. And I figure the corollary of that is anything you do before the shot is OK, including selecting a preset like B/W. I don't see selecting a preset as any different in spirit than adjusting exposure or focus before shooting. So if it were up to me, I'd say shoot in b/w all you want, as long as you set it up before you trip the shutter. On an iPhone, you can even do this with the native camera app.
The nice thing about presetting the native camera for b&w is then the exposure can also be set. Definitely great shots can happen with a click, ready to post. If only I ever remembered to set them up ... my default is to shoot what I see lol
 

Starzee

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Since you asked... :D

I read the intent of this challenge to be prompting people to get the image right in camera, with no editing after the shot. And I figure the corollary of that is anything you do before the shot is OK, including selecting a preset like B/W. I don't see selecting a preset as any different in spirit than adjusting exposure or focus before shooting. So if it were up to me, I'd say shoot in b/w all you want, as long as you set it up before you trip the shutter. On an iPhone, you can even do this with the native camera app.
My native camera has no b/w mode so I'd have to use an app to shoot in b/w and I suspect using an app should be deterred in this particular challenge.
I don't see why. Film photographers got to choose what film they were going to shoot with (and lens, and camera body). If the idea is to compose and adjust in camera, why would the app matter?

EDIT: Then again, I don't join this challenge very often because I love to edit, so probably you all should just ignore me. :lmao:
This is why I encouraged comments. I’m still trying to find my way with this thread. I agree that setting the camera for black and white in a “standard” camera app is comparable to choosing a film and would be totally acceptable. Even the different settings for native camera, vivid color, noir, etc, can be compared to different films. But in mobile photography, aren’t they all “filters”? How do I differentiate between the native camera sort of app, and Hipstamatic or Bluristc? I want keep it simple, too.
I'm thinking out loud here, sorry. I’ll work on the wording to include “film type” settings and exclude any further edits except cropping. Sigh.....
 

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This is why I encouraged comments. I’m still trying to find my way with this thread. I agree that setting the camera for black and white in a “standard” camera app is comparable to choosing a film and would be totally acceptable. Even the different settings for native camera, vivid color, noir, etc, can be compared to different films. But in mobile photography, aren’t they all “filters”? How do I differentiate between the native camera sort of app, and Hipstamatic or Bluristc? I want keep it simple, too.
I'm thinking out loud here, sorry. I’ll work on the wording to include “film type” settings and exclude any further edits except cropping. Sigh.....
I feel your pain Star. I had a similar conundrum with the Black and White Challenge. In the end I just had to say black and white only because it was simpler (and I’m having KISS on my headstone :lol: ). Trying to adjudicate if there’s a dispute is something to be avoided imho.
 

Starzee

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I feel your pain Star. I had a similar conundrum with the Black and White Challenge. In the end I just had to say black and white only because it was simpler (and I’m having KISS on my headstone :lol: ). Trying to adjudicate if there’s a dispute is something to be avoided imho.
I was thinking KISS when I was typing. :rolleyes: Another thought was to load it off on whoever is judging at the time to make the call. Then I thought of you, moderating the Black and White Challenge and jumping in to tell folks to desaturate and I thought, “That’s what a moderator is supposed to do.” Sigh.......
 

Nagaisgich

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I was thinking KISS when I was typing. :rolleyes: Another thought was to load it off on whoever is judging at the time to make the call. Then I thought of you, moderating the Black and White Challenge and jumping in to tell folks to desaturate and I thought, “That’s what a moderator is supposed to do.” Sigh.......
Would there be enough interest to have a mobizero b&w Challenge?
 
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