SHOOTING FROM THE HIP

Geek1956

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Kevin
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iPhone 13 Pro Max
Street photography for me is not something that I feel is natural to me. My wife is always quick to remind me that one day I’ll be arrested!
Anyway before I talk about my own experiences with street photography and I encourage others to add there own experiences I will add a brief description of the law as it relates to street photography downunder in Australia
 
I found the following extract from

I’m inclined to drift off when reading legalese but I found this extract quite interesting. I’d be interested in discovering how the law relates in other parts of the word.


The following is a brief summary of the law in Australia as it relates to street photography which will generally involve people. It is generally possible to take photographs in a public place without asking permission. This extends to taking photographs of buildings, sites and people. In a case involving street surveillance photography used as evidence in a criminal case, an Australian judge stated “a person, in our society, does not have a right not to be photographed.”[1]



If you are using your shots for a commercial purpose, such as for an advertising campaign, you should obtain a model release form signed by the subjects you are photographing to ensure you have authorisation to use their image to sell a product.



In order to access a privately owned space you need permission from the landowner, and he or she has the right to impose restrictions on photography. Therefore, you may only be allowed to photograph certain objects or locations. This type or restriction is common in many museums, galleries and sporting grounds, and may occur on land owned by Councils.



Just because people have free access to a place does not mean that place is a public place in which you are free to take photographs. Educational institutions (both government and non-government schools), child care services, hospitals, nursing homes, shopping malls, sports arenas, music venues (such as hotels and concert halls) are considered to be private property; even if they are owned by a local council or other government organisation. Open markets, such as Sydney’s Paddys Markets and Melbourne’s Queen Victoria Market are on private property so that photography at those markets can be regulated by the operator of the market. Museums, art galleries and amusement parks may also have photography policies on the basis the location is private property.



There is no restriction on taking photographs of people on private property from public property.



However there are criminal offences related to voyeurism and filming a person engaged in private act.



Taking of a photograph at a beach that includes a young child not wearing any clothes is a situation that is problematic - without necessarily being a criminal offence - the legal question is whether any photograph that includes the child meets the relevant test in the criminal law of being ‘indecent’, ‘obscene’, ‘offensive’ or whether it shows a child ‘in a sexual context’. In the context of the attention given to sexual abuse and the availability of pornographic images, street photographers should use their discretion as to whether it is appropriate to take photographs as members of the public may challenge your right to take photographs in a public place.
 
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I’m not a natural street photographer although along with food pics it’s probably one of my favourite genres. This photo was a classic shooting from the hips pic. I was on the other side of the road getting ready to cross when I spotted these two. The dynamics was what attracted me. As I crossed the road I literally started shooting from the hip, click, click, click using the Hipstamatic app. I’m not sure how many photos I took and fortunately the road wasn’t busy so I was able to walk slower to get more captures. From multiple shots and a few duds I ended up with a couple of captures that I found quite good. With this technique you have to shoot lots and basically hope for the best. In retrospect it would have made more sense to use “burst” mode on the iPhone which takes 10 photos/sec and then edited later rather than using the slower Hipstamatic app which quite often will go “crazy” after a few shots. This is a simple technique and I would be interested if anyone else has tried shooting from the hip.
 
Street is one of my favourite categories of photography along with architecture.
However my own very humble attempts are not really very impressive. My problem is I'm not that good at looking for meaningful interaction between the background and the human subjects in the foreground. All I end up with is random people in the street that seem slightly voyeuristic, and not really that interesting, if you see what I mean.
The real magic is capturing a scene that tells a potential story, rather than someone just out shopping. I think that's your real secret, spotting this Kevin, nothing to do with the mechanics of taking the shot.

I think maybe the best street photographers pick their 'spot' and then hang around waiting for a likely human to inject some magic, rather than randomly shooting as you go. Although you do very well 'on the hoof' :thumbs:

I'm happy to post examples but don't want to hijack your thread. :notworthy:
 
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I used to shoot from the hip a lot more before I abandoned by Sony for an iPhone. I live in a rural area in a (very) small town where, if you run into someone, you stop and visit instead of trying to sneak a photo. Mostly, my hip shots were at festivals or car shows, where there was a gathering and people pay less attention. I had a shutter remote that worked for a about one summer. After that, I resorted to firing with the volume buttons. The problem with that was, I often put the phone to sleep instead! :lol: I recently bought a cross body case that I think will be just the ticket and am in search of another shutter remote that is reliable. A few have been mentioned in Mobitog and I have bookmarked them. I also am waiting for some decent weather to practice in. Meantime, sometimes waiting in the car, or even when hubby is driving I shoot from the window.
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Street is one of my favourite categories of photography along with architecture.
However my own very humble attempts are not really very impressive. My problem is I'm not that good at looking for meaningful interaction between the background and the human subjects in the foreground. All I end up with is random people in the street, that aren't really interesting, if you see what I mean.
The real magic is capturing a scene that tells a potential story, rather than someone just out shopping. I think that's your real secret, spotting this Kevin, nothing to do with the mechanics of taking the shot.

I think maybe the best street photographers pick their 'spot' and then hang around waiting for a likely human to inject some magic, rather than randomly shooting as you go. Although you do very well 'on the hoof' :thumbs:

I'm happy to post examples but don't want to hijack your thread. :notworthy:
Oops, I think I may have hijacked it. But I think the idea was to share technique and images. At least I hope it was.... Geek1956 Kevin?
 
I used to shoot from the hip a lot more before I abandoned by Sony for an iPhone. I live in a rural area in a (very) small town where, if you run into someone, you stop and visit instead of trying to sneak a photo. Mostly, my hip shots were at festivals or car shows, where there was a gathering and people pay less attention. I had a shutter remote that worked for a about one summer. After that, I resorted to firing with the volume buttons. The problem with that was, I often put the phone to sleep instead! :lol: I recently bought a cross body case that I think will be just the ticket and am in search of another shutter remote that is reliable. A few have been mentioned in Mobitog and I have bookmarked them. I also am waiting for some decent weather to practice in. Meantime, sometimes waiting in the car, or even when hubby is driving I shoot from the window.View attachment 165788View attachment 165789View attachment 165790
I mean no offence but you've posted some good examples of what I was trying to explain :D What do these images tell us? What is the story?
 
I'll do it this way, there are around 200 images in this album, some good (ish) probably already posted here or on IG or both. Some not so good. Some maybe only slightly street. Some downright awful!! Feel free to poke around, there are a few repeats with different edits.
Don't usually share this way so let me know if it works.


I've never 'shot from the hip', people don't really notice you in my experience, especially with smartphones. Having said that I don't really get that close most of the time :D
Thinking about it maybe I did shoot from the hip when I had an old fashioned camera, those are not in the album above.

I've spent years trying to avoid people in my images, grumpily waiting till people have moved out of the way to get the clean shot.
But then I realised maybe I was missing that 'human element'.

One question to anyone, does 'Street' mean there has to be people in the shot?
 
I used to shoot from the hip a lot more before I abandoned by Sony for an iPhone. I live in a rural area in a (very) small town where, if you run into someone, you stop and visit instead of trying to sneak a photo. Mostly, my hip shots were at festivals or car shows, where there was a gathering and people pay less attention. I had a shutter remote that worked for a about one summer. After that, I resorted to firing with the volume buttons. The problem with that was, I often put the phone to sleep instead! :lol: I recently bought a cross body case that I think will be just the ticket and am in search of another shutter remote that is reliable. A few have been mentioned in Mobitog and I have bookmarked them. I also am waiting for some decent weather to practice in. Meantime, sometimes waiting in the car, or even when hubby is driving I shoot from the window.View attachment 165788View attachment 165789View attachment 165790
One of the most effective methods of concealment I have seen was a guy who used to use his ear phones so it looked like he was on a call but in fact he was taking photos.
 
Street is one of my favourite categories of photography along with architecture.
However my own very humble attempts are not really very impressive. My problem is I'm not that good at looking for meaningful interaction between the background and the human subjects in the foreground. All I end up with is random people in the street that seem slightly voyeuristic, and not really that interesting, if you see what I mean.
The real magic is capturing a scene that tells a potential story, rather than someone just out shopping. I think that's your real secret, spotting this Kevin, nothing to do with the mechanics of taking the shot.

I think maybe the best street photographers pick their 'spot' and then hang around waiting for a likely human to inject some magic, rather than randomly shooting as you go. Although you do very well 'on the hoof' :thumbs:

I'm happy to post examples but don't want to hijack your thread. :notworthy:
I totally agree John about picking the spot and waiting, quite often visualising the final capture. In the case illustrated there was no waiting but the main point was the “mechanics” ie hips shooting. I would love to see your captures John
 
Oops, I think I may have hijacked it. But I think the idea was to share technique and images. At least I hope it was.... Geek1956 Kevin?
No appreciate your post and photos. I have the same problem with the new burst mode on the IPhone 11. Previously you just held the capture button down to get a burst, now you press and slide left although I’ll sometimes press right and get video..grrrrr. Love your spontaneous images, personally I prefer black and white for street but I might elaborate on that a little later. Thanks for your input
 
Oops, I think I may have hijacked it. But I think the idea was to share technique and images. At least I hope it was.... Geek1956 Kevin?
Wasn’t really thinking of the artistic side John, which as you allude to is the point of the exercise. In the case of this capture, as mentioned, it was about personal dynamic, the tension between this couple which leads to question “what was that all about” . Appreciate your comments John and I hope this thread will wander further than the title suggests. Would be interested in knowing what the legal aspects are up your way.
 
I'll do it this way, there are around 200 images in this album, some good (ish) probably already posted here or on IG or both. Some not so good. Some maybe only slightly street. Some downright awful!! Feel free to poke around, there are a few repeats with different edits.
Don't usually share this way so let me know if it works.


I've never 'shot from the hip', people don't really notice you in my experience, especially with smartphones. Having said that I don't really get that close most of the time :D
Thinking about it maybe I did shoot from the hip when I had an old fashioned camera, those are not in the album above.

I've spent years trying to avoid people in my images, grumpily waiting till people have moved out of the way to get the clean shot.
But then I realised maybe I was missing that 'human element'.

One question to anyone, does 'Street' mean there has to be people in the shot?
Does “street” mean people? I would answer yes John otherwise it becomes my other favourite “street art” or “architecture” etc. I’ll check the link out
 
One of the most effective methods of concealment I have seen was a guy who used to use his ear phones so it looked like he was on a call but in fact he was taking photos.
That’s one I’ve used. Another handy tip especially as you approach the guy with the green spiked hair and tattoos is to point and shoot, keep looking at the screen and if he looks at you put the phone to your ear and start talking to your “friend” . Street photography is about, as @sinnerjohnentioned, recognising the moment, and confidence.
 
Kevin thanks for starting this thread - and for leading with the laws in this part of the world.
I hope that leads to some discussion about hot legal/ethical issues in street photography, as well as the aesthetics, composition (ha ha)

and the latest tech in surreptitious photography. . . I’m imaging some kind of gamer’s headset, with a periscope-like gizmo that slides up on command. You incline your head toward the object of interest, the vision appears on your phone, you adjust focus etc and shoot.
 
Kevin thanks for starting this thread - and for leading with the laws in this part of the world.
I hope that leads to some discussion about hot legal/ethical issues in street photography, as well as the aesthetics, composition (ha ha)

and the latest tech in surreptitious photography. . . I’m imaging some kind of gamer’s headset, with a periscope-like gizmo that slides up on command. You incline your head toward the object of interest, the vision appears on your phone, you adjust focus etc and shoot.
A drone would do it too
 
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